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  • Luis Rosa 4:48 pm on October 20, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , Feldman, intuition, , reasoning   

    That P is intuitive makes P probable? 

    Maybe there is a huge literature out there about intuition (or rational insight) as a source of justification and knowledge – but I didn’t read any paper on it yet. However, I have a promissory note to deal with questions surrounding this cognitive power. The fact is that every time I read a philosopher accepting or rejecting a certain thesis on the basis that it is intuitive or counter-intuitive, I feel uncomfortable. So, I’ll try to explain why that is so. At the same time, I would like to know if the reader of this post feels completely assured that intuition is a good source of justification and knowledge (you can feel comfortable to indicate papers dealing with this question).

    Doubts surrounding intuition can arise when one is in the context of philosophical discourse. In such context, it is usual to present philosophical analyzes by means of propositions with the form:

    x is if, and only if, x is B,

    or:

    is only if is B

    where ‘A’ and ‘B‘ are predicates standing for relations and properties (or sets of relations and/or properties). Generally, it is said that beliefs in such propositions are justified a priori – by means of reasoning from justified premises, or by means of understanding the meanings of ‘A’ and ‘B’, or then by means of rational intuition. It seems it is not as clear how such beliefs are justified by intuition as it is when they are justified by reasoning and linguistic understanding – what is a rational intuition? What epistemic properties it has?

    Nevertheless, philosophers in general make use of intuition to refute and endorse propositions with that form. The theoretical procedure of endorsing a proposition by means of intuition can be represented by the following argument-type:


    (i) It is intuitive that x is only if x is B

    (ii) Therefore, is only if is B


    This argument-type is instantiated by, for example:


    (i’) It is intuitive that, if S knows that P, then S has some degree of certainty with respect to P

    (ii’) therefore, if knows that P, then has some degree of certainty with respect to P


    In a similar way, there is a theoretical procedure in which one refutes a proposition by means of intuition that can be represented by the following argument-type:


    (iii) It is counter-intuitive that x is A when x is B

    (iv) Therefore, x is not A when x is B


    This argument-type is instantiated by, for example:


    (iii’) It is counter-intuitive that S has knowledge when S has a justified belief which is accidentally true

    (iv’) Therefore, S does not have knowledge when S has a justified belief which is accidentally true


    What kind of argument is that authorizing the passage from (i) to (ii) and from (iii) to (iv)? Clearly, the argument is not a valid one: it is possible for the conclusion to be false while the premise is true. It can perfectly be the case that P is intuitive and false, as it can perfectly be the case that P is counter-intuitive and true.

    But there is another option for taking these arguments as good ones (that is, not ill-formed): they are inductively strong (or cogent as Feldman calls it in Reason & Argument). In that case, the thesis is as follows:


    (IN) If it is intuitive that P, then P is probably the case


    And, if (IN) is the case, the following epistemic norm can be derived:


    (ENI) When P is intuitive to S, S is epistemically insured in believing that P


    This epistemic norm does not require S to know/justifiably believe that (IN) is the case – intuition can play its justificatory role even if neither (IN) nor (ENI) are actually accessed by S. The worry about the epistemic status of (IN) is part of the epistemologist job, however, which wants to justify the epistemic norm (ENI). Now, my question is: how can the epistemologist justify (IN)? What reasons we have to believe it is true?

     
    • Nita 8:16 pm on October 20, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Great post! As it happened before, my spontaneous reactions and comments are confined to a limited understanding of this problem from a moral, epistemological standpoint. As I told you before, the very intriguing thing when dealing with intuition and intuitionism in Rawl’s moral philosophy is that it makes us wonder whether one can at once refuse moral intuitionism (understood as rational intuitionism or moral Platonism as spoused by Clarke, Price, Leibniz, Wolff, Sidgwick and Moore) and embrace constructivism (itself akin to a version of mathematical intuionism). I tend to disagree with most analytic realist readings of this issue, for instance, when Audi regards Kant’s ethics as intuitionist (Mind 2001 article, attached as PDF). It seems that intuitionism is inevitably reducible to moral realism, as one thinks of an immediate take on moral issues, say, that “torture is morally wrong” (not to say that “punching babies is morally wrong” and this kind of self-evident “intuitions” for US students). Precisely because I do believe that both torture and punching babies are morally wrong but these beliefs are not immediately given I tend to take distance from most Anglo-American moral realists, esp. whenever they seem to betray some form of conservative, theological realism (as Professor Plantinga just showed us right here at PUCRS). I am a very liberal animal, so I am quite respectful of these gentlemen’s views but I am not convinced and must be honest to admit that I still keep guard against cryptofundamentalist agendas. Kant seems to be a good watershed because the way one reads the Kantian critique of Platonic, Cartesian intuitionism (which includes theological and metaphysical presuppositions about nature and reality overall) could help us make sense of our own contemporary understanding of these problems. So I am assuming that when you talk about “rational intuition” you mean what Kant called “a priori” or somewhat related to pure reason. For instance, when Kant thinks of space and time as forms of intuition, in that they depend on the “subjective constitution of the mind.” And yet Kant’s conception of intuition accounts also for our everyday usage of the term, say, in perception, when we see that the sky is blue or hear the noise of a car approaching. For Kant, intuition, in this latter sense, is always sensible intuition, as our immediate representation of things or phenomenal beings always refers us to their being in space and time and available to our sense perception without recourse to inference or reason. Moreover, there is no such thing as an intellectual intuition (a Hegelian metaphysical invention of sorts!) For Kant, intuitions are thus objective representations and as such we almost take for granted that the board in our classroom is green, that the door is open or closed etc –most of our daily experiences in dealing with things and nature, in contingent, synthetic a posteriori fashion. The funny thing is that, according to Kant, we can also have pure intutitions, precisely like the non-empirical, immediate representations of space and of time. It seems that in philosophy of math this has been a big, controversial problem whenever we say that “1 + 1 = 2″ stands for an example of intuition. For as we all know, Kant thought that this would rather be an example of a synthetic a priori judgment. That is why intuitionism and constructivism stem from the Kantian take on pure intuition, in a rather different account from traditional, Platonic intuitionism and formalism. Now, when you raise the question “What reasons do we have to believe (anything intuitive) is true?” –a damn good question by the way– it seems that, in moral epistemology, it all depends on what context for giving reasons is meant, say, for the right action or in a metaphysical sense (such as the Platonic realm of Forms or any theory of the Good that claims to be prior to social reality). I understand that you probably don’t want to place your inquiry within social epistemology but since analytic philosophy is committed to holism or avoiding dualisms I thought you might want to respond to this provocation!

      • nythamar 10:28 am on October 21, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Check this out:

        http://philosophy.ucdavis.edu/mattey/kant/INTUIT.HTM

        Kant Lexicon

        Intuition (Anschauung)

        A320-B377: Intuition is a mode of cognition, which “relates immediately to the object, and is single.”
        A19/B33: “In whatever manner and by whatever means a mode of cognition may relate to objects, intuition is that through which it is in immediate relation to them . . . But intuition takes place only in so far as the object is given to us.”

        To say that intuition relates immediately to the object means that it represents the object without bringing it under a general concept.

        Intuitions represent single objects, particulars, rather than groups of objects. It is general concepts which represent many single things under one heading.

        Kant held that human intuition is sensible. That is, the objects of intuition are “given” to the mind, which is “affected” by them. Sensibility is the faculty of the mind which is affected by objects.

        “Our mode of intuition is dependent upon the existence of the object, and is threfore possible only if the subjects’ faculty of representation is affected by that object. . . . It is derivative (intuitus derivativus), not original (intuitus originarius) , and, therefore not an intellectual intuition” (B72).

        It is conceivable that some minds have an intuition that is intellectual. It would represent objects immediately without being affected by them. Kant held that we do not know whether this is possible, since we do not know how it could occur. The only clue we have is that if there is a God or primordial being, it would have to have original intuition. The reason is that such a being’s cognition must be intuitive, but it could not intuit anything sensibly, as this would be a limitation. (B71, cf. B138)

        • nythamar 10:42 am on October 21, 2011 Permalink | Reply

          Another helpful, thought-provoking link from a doctoral student, Sharon Berry, from Harvard:

          http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~seberry/evolution/#_ftnref1

          Evolution, Induction and Rational Intuition

          Intro
          Rational intuition: There are a number of things which can be called rational intuition[1]. Here I simply mean the fairly immediate/spontaneous/off the cuff inclination to say that a certain sentence is true without, say, looking a proof or learning this by testimony. So, for example when you immediately accept or feel that you can directly ‘see’ the truth of a statement or when you go through one example (or fewer) and then are inclined to think, without proof, that all other examples will work out the same way these would all be examples of rational intuition in the sense that I have in mind.

          We take rational intuition to very frequently lead us to true conclusions though it is not infallible.

          There is probably an evolutionary explanation for how such intuitions can so frequently get things right. In this section I will consider some philosophical problems for such an account.

          One note before we get started though:
          Often we have rational intuitions about propositions which can be proved from accepted axioms so one might think that all such intuitions are a matter of subconsciously working out a proof. This doesn’t seem likely for a number of reasons. First off we can have apparently quite similar intuitions about statements like the axiom of choice which can’t be proved from accepted axioms. Secondly accepted axioms often seem intuitive themselves in a very similar way as propositions which can be proved in terms of them – rather than feeling somehow especially trivial. This is, of course, consistent with the idea that the mechanism which produces rational intuitions effectively tries to prove the statement in question from our accepted axioms and gives us the feeling that such statements must be true when such a subconscious proof can be given (in the case of the axioms these proofs will just be proofs of one line). However, this hypothesis that cultural acceptance of certain axioms precedes mathematical intuition seems very unlikely. It is surely more plausible to think that intuition precedes axiom choice: that a number of related statements all seem intuitively likely and we choose some of them as axioms in such a way as to entail as many of the others as possible.
          Thus for these two reasons the fact that many things which are intuitive can be proved should not be taken to mean that mathematical intuition is a matter of unconsciously grasping a proof (though, of course one thing we can have a mathematical intuition about is the claim that something can be proved).

          Impossibility argument

          If scientific induction is completely unreliable in the realm of necessary truths then it is surprising that evolution would lead people to accept true axioms and inference procedures.
          For, if there is a humanly detectable kind of inferential procedure such that the fact that a number of instances of a procedure of this kind don’t lead from truth to falsehood makes it likely that the inference procedure is infact truth preserving, then we will get both a justification for induction about math+logic and an evolutionary explanation for how we could evolve a faculty of rational intuition. Otherwise we get neither.

          I think that we should accept both the evolutionary account of rational intuition and the idea that in some cases induction can justify us in believing necessary logico-mathematical truths.

          A strong Platonist might object that what we evolve is a faculty that literally detects the forms. But if you don’t accept such causal powers then it is hard to see what the sub-personal mechanisms evolved could do to get reliability that conscious induction can’t.

          Here are a few points to soften the blow of accepting that we can have mathematical knowledge by induction

          calculator example
          could learn that everyone in group A qualifies for insurance plan 5 inductively
          obviously some mathematical predicates aren’t very inductable but neither are some empirical ones… all we need is that there is some subset of mathematical claims which humans can distinguish which are inductible
          in some cases we are inclined to use knowledge to mean possession of a canonical proof as distinct from reliable belief: so if you are inclined to say that you cant *know* mathematical truths by scientific induction in the special sense which is normally relevant to mathematical statements this does not entail that induction can’t lead you to reliable true beliefs.

          Specific problems for coming up with an evolutionary story about rationality:

          What is it for a creature to be able to infer from ‘P v Q and ~Q’ to ‘P’ – need to associate these two logically equivalent propositions with different mental states such that some creature could be evolutionarally disadvantaged by not connecting these states.

          [This is a variant of the problem of logical omniscience: it is tempting to think of a creature’s mental states in terms of the set of possible worlds which are actual for all we know.]

          In order to get an evolutionary grip we would need to have separate behavioral states associated with the two necessary beliefs, which there could then be some evolutionary value to evading.

          Suppose:
          Mice can detect vixen urine.
          Mice can detect foxes visually, and go into fox evasion procedure when they do.

          If a mouse smells the vixen urine but doesn’t start the fox evasion procedures we might say that it knows that there is a fox but not that that there is a vixen.

          In this way there could be selection for either
          a) mice with brains that automatically connected these two states
          b) mice with brains that would end up connecting these states if they were frequently enough activated next to each other (i.e. brains that treated these predicates as inductible)

          In this way, if we think that it makes sense to attribute logical abilities to pre-lingusitic animals we can make sense of evolution giving them these linguistic abilities.

          On the other hand if you don’t think it makes sense to attribute logico-mathematical abilities to animals then the story is even easier to tell once language is in place

          Suppose:
          People can recognize vixens by seeing them or by hearing others say vixen
          People can recognize foxes by seeing them or by hearing others say fox, and they have fox hunting/evasion procedures

          There would be survival value to going to get your fox spear directly when someone says vixen rather than waiting for someone to say that is a fox too, or waiting for it to come into sight.

          Since language chances so quickly it’s unlikely that there would be benefit in making a brain that ‘automatically’ believes that vixens are foxes.
          But there would be a benefit to build a brain which is likely to connect these kinds of states (one that treats these states as inductive).
          We would be evolved to have a sense of the ‘right’ kinds of inferential procedures to accept as universally true after relatively few confirmatory experiences, just as we are evolved to have a sense of the ‘right’ kind of generalizations about the empirical world (pots that look like this will crack when fired, treating bees like this will make them aggressive) to believe on the basis of very limited experience.

          In this way our intuition that the pigeon-hole principle is true is like our intuition that you can’t cut a banana with a telephone wire (we are evolved to quickly, subconsciously, make certain kinds of generalizations on the basis of very limited observation)

          The only difference is that in the latter case we can form certain kinds of pictures of mere physical impossibilities but not metaphysical/mathematical impossibilities.

          But these canonical methods of picturing are just formed by a) evolution and b) custom in such a way that everything which is actual/physically possible turns out to be picturable. But there are no further constraints: whether we say that a given description of a physically possible state of affairs is or is not metaphysically possible is just a matter of chance and convention.

    • nythamar 10:23 pm on October 21, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Once again, let me try to make sense of my take on rational intuition:

      The major problem with moral intuitionism, as Rawls correctly put it, is its taking for granted so-called prima facie moral convictions or beliefs as something self-evident. A moral intuition comes down to believing something irreducibly given, as it were a brute fact, the plain truth or the real thing. A Cartesian genius, G-d or Coca-Cola, for that matter, seem to be all likely to be mistaken for intuitive beliefs and the object of warranted belief. Once again, we must reexamine the grammar of belief and the ontological commitments involved in such metaethical assumptions. In Kantian terms, we must distiguish opining, knowing, and believing (KrV A820/B 848 Canon of Pure Reason section 3). According to our coherentist, Rawlsian-like reading of Kant’s epistemology, the only way to know something is by appealing to beliefs and that which is regarded as being true is that which is consistent with our overall network of beliefs. In Rawlsian-Kantian terms that means that there are no foundational propositions leading to some basic beliefs in order to act morally (once again, think of giving reasons to act morally as a procedural device, say, like the categorical imperative).
      So that accounts for traditional accounts of cognition as “justified true belief” in a much weaker sense (hence, shifting away from robust cognitivism and moral realism) but also for the semantic, ontological implications in a post-Gettier account of lucky guesses, moral luck, luck egalitarianism, and so forth. For Kant the bottom line is that we must make a distinction between theoretical and practical uses of reason, and this what lends to confusion when most believers take for granted that because it seems consistent to hold moral beliefs and believe in G-d that Kant seems to be making a case for a theistic view of moral realism. Kant’s antirealism can be thus placed somewhere between Platonic, moral realism and Humean noncognitivism, just like R.M. Hare and J. Rawls have convincingly argued.

      • Luis Rosa 7:44 pm on October 22, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Hello Nythamar! You brought lots of points since the first comment, but I think it is noteworthy that the kantian take on intuition is very different from the contemporary epistemologist’s take on it. they are not talking about the same thing. kant is talking about intuition of particulars, objects. the hangout on intuition from the contemporary epistemology point of view is concerned with another kind of object – propositions and beliefs. it seems the intuitions of particulars via sensation is not the same thing as intuition as a source of justification for beliefs in propositions. It is one thing to have an intuition of an object, and another to have an intuition that…, where the ‘…’ is completed by a proposition or declarative sentence. On the same moods, I would say the quotation from Sharon Berry goes straight to the epistemological point that is in question here – so that is the meaning of ‘intuition’ we’re using.
        Now, turning to the epistemological status of beliefs gattered via intuition: there is the possibility for one to believe that (IN) is the case on the basis that, most of the times we have an intuition that P is the case, P is the case. That would be an inductive reasoning giving support to the reliability of intuition – and intuition would be a derivative source of justification. It is believed to be reliable on the basis of reasoning and any other source of justification (examples can be given with the use of perception, testimony and memory confirming the proposition that was the object of intuition and believed to be the case). It follows from this hypothesis that intuition is not a basic source of justification – and it seems to me this result would be unwelcome for some classic apriorists (I owe this point to Alexandre Junges, which answered during a lunch how he would answer the question about the reliability of intuition).

  • Luis Rosa 4:32 pm on September 11, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , interview, , philosophy of religion   

    Interview with Alvin Plantinga 

    Last month professor Alvin Plantinga came to PUCRS (Porto Alegre – Brazil) and gave two lectures, talking about his theories and his work. We discussed epistemology and also philosophy of religion and metaphysics (you can see the event’s program below). We are very stimulated by the issues and questions raised by Plantinga’s work. During the event, I invited professor Plantinga to give us an interview, which now I present to you, my fellow reader.

    Luis Rosa – Professor Plantinga, what is the main goal of Warrant and Proper Function?

    Alvin Plantinga - The main goal of WPF was to come up with a correct analysis of knowledge. The novel element in the analysis is the use of the notion of proper function, which was absent from the other accounts of knowledge. I’m happy to note that other philosophers have begun to use this notion, or something similar.

    Luis Rosa – Given the current debate, what is the actual status of your analysis of knowledge? Do you think it is successfull?

    Alvin Plantinga - I’m still enthusiastic about this analysis of knowledge. As subsequent discussion has shown, it is hard to get the analysis exactly right; but I’m quite optimistic about the fine-tuning of the analysis to be found in Warranted Christian Belief.

    Luis Rosa – What is the theoretical advantage of your analysis of knowledge, if there is such an advantage, over the “no-defeater” analyses? Is the concept of warrant, as defined in your work, a superior conceptual tool for dealing with epistemic matters?

    Alvin Plantinga - The problem with non-defeater analyses is that the notion of a defeater is itself an epistemic notion in need of analysis. I think that notion is properly analyzed in terms of proper function

    Luis Rosa – How do you handle internalist considerations on rationality and evidential support, used in the formulation of counter-examples to your externalist analysis of knowledge?

    Alvin Plantinga - I don’t think there are any successful counterexamples of my account of knowledge.

    Luis Rosa – What exactly is the role you attribute to epistemology in the religious debate?

    Alvin Plantinga - Many opponents of religion, including some of the new atheists, claim that religious belief is irrational.  It is important to show that these claims are incorrect and really baseless.

     Luis Rosa – How exactly do you explain the claim that theistic belief is epistemically basic? Is it basic in the sense that beliefs in necessary truths are said to be ‘basic’?

    Alvin Plantinga - It is basic in the same sense, but is nonetheless of quite a different sort; it isn’t self-evident.  In the same way memory and perceptual beliefs are basic, but not self-evident.  Self-evident beliefs are only one of the kinds of belief that are or can be properly basic.

    Luis Rosa - Can you explain how knowledge depends on the existence of a designer?

    Alvin Plantinga - Here the basic idea is that knowledge involves the notion of proper function (see question 1), and the notion of proper function can’t be analyzed in naturalistic terms, as I argue in Warrant and Proper Function.  If both these things are true, there is knowledge only if naturalism is false.  So knowledge depends on the falsehood of naturalism.  It’s a step further to say that knowledge depends on there being a designer. Thanks very much!

    So that is how the interview ends. I am very glad professor Plantinga answered to it. Now we can continue the debate. Are you satisfied with Plantingas theses? Let us discuss it!

     
  • Luis Rosa 5:52 pm on August 1, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , events, Poa   

    The epistemology of Alvin Plantinga 

    The Graduate Program on Philosophy of PUCRS invites all of us to the conferences and debates on “The Epistemology of Alvin Plantinga“, which will happen in August 29-30. The event takes place in the Central Campus of PUCRS, building 5′s auditorium, Porto Alegre-RS (map below).

    Professor Alvin Plantinga is our second visitor epistemologist this year (the first one was Anthony Brueckner), and we are very interested in the epistemological debate surrounding Warrant and Proper Function.

    Take a look at the event’s program:

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    August 29 (Monday):

    14h: Conference

    • Warrant and Proper Function”, Prof. Dr. Alvin Plantinga, University of Notre Dame

    16h -18h: Debates

    • “Plantinga and the Bayesian Justification of Belief ”, Prof. Dr. Agnaldo Cuoco Portugal (UNB)
    • “More on Warrant and the Accidentality of Belief”, Prof. Dr. Roberto Hofmeister Pich (PUCRS)
    • “Plantinga, warrant and epistemic defeasibility”, Prof. Dr. Cláudio Almeida (PUCRS)

    August 30 (Tuesday):

    14h: Conference

    • An Evolutionary Argument against Naturalism”, Prof. Dr. Alvin Plantinga, University of Notre Dame

    16h -18h: Debates

    • “Ontological Naturalism and Evolution Theory”, Prof. Dr. Adilson Koslowski (UFS)
    • Plantinga on the Nature of Necessity”, Prof. Desidério Murcho (UFOP)
    • “Plantinga and the Epistemology of Religion”, Prof. Dr. Rogel Esteves de Oliveira

    Support by:

    Grupo de Pesquisa Filosofia da Religião (CNPq e ANPOF)

    Grupo de Pesquisa Epistemologia Analítica (CNPq e ANPOF)

    Núcleo de Pesquisa Filosofia, Religião e Ciência (PUCRS)

    Programa de Pós-Graduação em Filosofia da PUCRS

    Programa de Pós-Graduação em Teologia da PUCRS

     

    For more information:     

    (51) 3320-3554

    filosofia-pg@pucrs.br

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  • Luis Rosa 6:02 pm on July 11, 2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: deontologism, , , normativity   

    A question on justification and normativity 

    What is the relation between justification and epistemic norms (if there are such norms)? I thought of two possible analyses to investigate this difficult question. The first one states epistemic normativity as a necessary and sufficient condition for justification:

    (N1) S is justified in believing P if, and only if, S is following an epistemic norm in believing P

    The second one states epistemic normativity only as a necessary (but not sufficient) condition for justification:

    (N2) S is justified in believing P only if is following an epistemic norm in believing P

    Analysis (N1) is supposed to fully analyze the concept of epistemic justification. Analysis (N2) is supposed to analyze it only partially. Additional conditions would make analysis (N2) complete. Here are some possible examples of ‘external’ properties or relations that could be added to (N2) to make it a complete analysis of justification: reliability of belief-forming process; the so-called proper function of belief generators; truth-tracking of the proposition believed. And here are some possible examples of ‘internal’ properties or relations that could be added to (N2) to make it complete: evidential support given by the background system of beliefs; lack of counter-evidence to the belief in question (no-defeater condition); coherence with the system of beliefs.

    Now, one very important question here is that one requiring an explanation of epistemic norms. What is the nature of such norms? What are the examples of epistemic norms? Answering these questions is a condition for us to decide if normativity is a necessary condition for justification or if it is not only necessary, but also sufficient.

    I don’t have such a full explanation, but I think some important points can be made regarding what epistemic normativity does not entail. First, it seems clear to me that:

    [S's belief that P follows an epistemic norm],

    does not entail:

    [S is aware of the fact that she is following an epistemic norm when believing that P],

    nor does it entail:

    [S knows what epistemic norm she is following when believing that P]

    Why not? Well, it is not that we don’t want to “overintellectualize” ordinary epistemic agents, but also it seems that we epistemologists don’t know for sure all the relevant epistemic norms. Imagine a person from a long time ago, before anyone’s knowledge of modus ponens, for example. This person reasons from P and P ->Q (in his own way of thinking of course), and concludes that Q. Would we say that this person is not reasoning in accordance with modus ponens just because she has no belief about her applying a rule or something like it? Surely not!

    Second, it also seems clear to me that

    [S's belief that follows an epistemic norm],

    does not entail:

    [S is fulfilling her epistemic duty when believing that P]

    When I say the first proposition does not entail the second, I’m just saying epistemic normativity does not entail epistemic deontologism. Fulfilling a duty is something more than following a norm.

    Now, these two theses are negative: they say what epistemic normativity is not. How could we say something positive on it? Do you have any ideas?

     
    • Tiegue And His Elusive Thoughts 12:16 pm on August 8, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      I Just have two minor questions: Justification itself is a normative epistemic principle (e.g., for knowledge), isn’t it?
      I don’t have to restrict ‘epistemic normativity’ within the realm of justification, do I?

      • Luis Rosa 11:15 pm on September 1, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        I’m not sure I follow you, Tiegue. Justification is a condition for knowledge, yes, but I don’t know exactly what it means for epistemic normativity not to be within the realm of epistemic justification (or, if you prefer, epistemic rationality). Let me know your thoughts!

    • nythamar 6:49 pm on September 1, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Great post –I would dare to say, brilliant! You have offered here some intriguing conjectures and comments re normativity overall and epistemic normativity as it relates to epistemology. Since I have no training in analytic epistemology but became quite interested in social epistemology and analytic social philosophy, let me ask you a couple of background questions: 1. are you assuming a broad understanding of normativity, say, as found in Sosa’s paper http://experimentalphilosophy.typepad.com/2nd_annual_online_philoso/files/ernest_sosa.pdf
      “In a narrow, praxiological, sense, normativity pertains to choice or action, and to rules or
      standards for choosing or assessing conduct. In an extended, axiological, sense, it pertains to the evaluative more generally, whether the objects of evaluation be actions or not. The two are
      intimately related, since conduct that brings about something intrinsically good is to that extent apt, even if it must meet further requirements of rational control and intentional guidance. Here we
      take the broader view;” 2. If so, what’s exactly “evaluative” about “the evaluative more generally”? In Kantian terms, one opposes a theoretical use to a practical use of reason, and a “constitutive” to a “regulative” use of ideas in order to account for teleological, reflexive and self-reflexive judgments, say, in science, arts, and ethics. Hence the fact-value opposition (of Neo-Kantians) is quite helpful to draw the line between descriptive and normative claims. Now from what I heard in Prof. Plantinga’s uses of the words “intuition” and “belief” I am not sure that I can follow your own take on epistemic normativity not entailing “epistemic deontologism,” although I would agree with you in that “fulfilling a duty is something more than following a norm.” As you see, it all depends on what is actually meant by “norm.”

    • Luis Rosa 7:18 pm on September 1, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Thanks, professor Nythamar! Despite your lack of training in analytic epistemology, as said by you, your questions are really good. Maybe my understanding of normativity isn’t like that broad understanding of normativity brought by Sosa in the quoted passage. I’m not thinking in choice, because doxastic attitudes are tipically mental states we don’t chose to have – beliefs just ‘happen’ to us. It is not up to me believing that there is a computer in front of me right now, nor that A=A – it seems I cannot manage to disbelieve these propositions when I’m receiving the input which lead me to those beliefs. Now, I am not sure about the relations between epistemic normativity and epistemic values. However, one thing comes straight to my thinking: the epistemological value we pursue in our cognitive life is having true beliefs and avoiding false ones. That is the ‘epistemic excellence’, so to say. Epistemic norms are means to achieve this end.
      But having this end is no obligation for anyone. It is not a duty of yours to look for this epistemic excellence of having a system of several true beliefs and few false ones. IF your goal is having such a system of beliefs, THEN acting in accordance with epistemic norms is the best think to do. Now, it is easy to understand this conception of normativity in a deontological way – and that’s why I completely understand your doubt on it. However, I think that epistemic norms have nothing to do with duties or any ethical concept like this one. Soon, I will post here a better explanation of this point.

      • nythamar 2:07 am on September 2, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for the helpful, insightful posting. I have to think thru this whole thing over again.

      • nythamar 7:39 pm on September 3, 2011 Permalink | Reply

        Dear Luis,

        Thanks for bearing with me in this Socratic exercise. As you can tell, my interest in normativity is mainly practical (meaning ethical, legal, social & political) –and yet I can’t help relating this to a specifically theoretical take on knowledge, belief, and reason. As I set out to bring in analytic authors’ contributions (esp. in moral and social epistemology) into my phenomenological, hermeneutical research in social philosophy, I realized that there are indeed positive and negative features on both sides (just to name their most salient blindspots: while continental theorists tend to be obscure, inconsistent or inaccurate in their language, analytic philosophers tend to overlook historical, social, and empirical conditionings) as I keep on trying to avoid reductionisms of both transcendental and naturalist camps, such as phenomenalism and physicalism, in my constant avoidance of both postmodernist, social constructionism and positivist realism. I am still very puzzled by the analytic-continental divide over the problem of antirealism, which (perhaps because of my phenomenological training) I continue to regard as a Kantian innovation in Western philosophy. Hence the very emergence of social epistemology within the analytic camp strikes me as an analytic recasting of Hegel’s critique of Kant’s solipsism and of the phenomenological, hermeneutical critical appropriation of Neo-Kantianism, so as to overcome the Platonic-Cartesian conception of knowledge as “justified true belief” and to unveil knowledge as “intrinsically social” (to quote Fuller). So you can tell that my interdisciplinary research in social philosophy, esp. in light of this proficuous interlocution with social epistemology and moral epistemology, must also attend to other philosophical fields such as philosophy of language and philosophy of mind, besides all the ontological, metaphysical, and logical-semantic analyses entailed.

        Now, to get back to your theses, let me recap (I’m just quoting you and trying to make sense of your decent proposal):
        (N1) S is justified in believing P ↔ S follows an epistemic norm in believing P
        (N2) S is justified in believing P only if S is following an epistemic norm in believing P

        It seems, therefore, that one might still proceed from epistemic justification to a moral epistemic justification (as long as one is not committed to an extreme noncognitivist view of ethics), so that one’s goal may as well be having a system of moral beliefs and acting in accordance with moral epistemic norms etc (I’m just thinking aloud). As I told you before, the more research and work I did in ethics and political philosophy, the less convinced I became about said moral beliefs being actually justified according to traditional arguments of moral realism, universalism, intuitionism, and robust conceptions of rationality. It seems that Humean noncognitivism is getting an edge over Platonic realism, even though most analytic moral philosophers try by all means to avoid sheer relativism and postmodernism. Moreover, it appears that objectivity in the natural, hard sciences turns out to be more reasonably accounted for than in the social sciences and ethics, given the “fact of reasonable pluralism” (to use Rawls’s felicitous phrase). Now let me go back to my questioning by rephrasing the questions:

        (Q1) Is “to follow an epistemic norm” somewhat equivalent to “to follow a rule” ?
        You see, even when you start by assuming that “S is justified in believing P,” “S believes P” is somehow taken for granted –hence the Sosa quote and raising the question on the grammar of belief— and it seems that you have to presuppose at least that we are into a doxastic language game (doxastic grammar of belief). I can’t help thinking here of the second Wittgenstein and his take on the social institution of language.

        (Q2) Isn’t the case that being “justified in believing P” presupposes always already a certain ontological commitment, say, to a given context of meaning, to an environment, and to a certain extent even to a social environment?
        Depending on how you tackle Q1, I believe that “to follow an epistemic norm” is itself a socially conditioned state of mind. In this case, we have to check out our logical-semantic presupposita. Of course in sofar as doxastic logic is part of a formal understanding of modal logic, we do not have to think of concrete human beings in their social existence, talking about their beliefs in the agora. I’m sorry to bring in this feature to our discussion, but it could be quite helpful to think that this is where the continental-analytic divide might help us somehow deal with your announced topic: “A question on justification and normativity.”
        From a continental standpoint, “justification and normativity” didn’t fall from heavens or don’t pop up out of the blue (like psychedelic mushrooms, some po-mo might say!). Questions on “justification and normativity” have been raised and dealt with by philosophers since Plato and Aristotle, and entail various, related conceptions of ontology and metaphysics. That relates to Tiegue’s post on rationality –what’s the proper function of “giving reasons to act” in a certain (supposedly normative) way? So this brings us to my 3rd question:

        (Q3) How do you go from a semantic approach to a pragmatic approach to such an epistemic problem of justification and normativity?
        I grant that we might do all the homework in doxastic logic (as we can do the same in model logic and deontic logic) from a strictly formal perspective that says nothing about the world and real, concrete people and their social, intersubjective relations. It could be that you set out to outline some axioms or elementary statements like in a theory of normativity. So that whenever we talk about social agents we think of beliefs that also take into account testimony and/or other people’s beliefs –testimonial beliefs and social-evidence-based beliefs. That being the case, am I correctly assuming that you are not particularly interested in this or that you are abstracting from this social dimension to an epistemology of belief and normativity? That’s why I thought you might be more into a formal, logical approach or even a mathematical, logical conception of normativity, so that “normative” is more like “counterfactual,” to be opposed to “factual.”

        Please make your case!

        Cheers,
        nythamar

    • Luis Rosa 5:34 pm on September 12, 2011 Permalink | Reply

      Very nice points, Nythamar. I am now seeing that the scope on questions of normativity and rationality are very wide – not constrained to epistemology. Nevertheless, I am occupied now with the particular questions on epistemic justification – but also trying to make it in a way that doesn’t contradict with the definitions of normativity and rationality taken as general concepts (present in ethics, theory of action, epistemology and even AI).
      Now, i didn’t get the point on the hypothesis “that one might still proceed from epistemic justification to a moral epistemic justification” – what do you mean? Epistemic justification is related to a certain objective, a certain end, which is having true beliefs and avoiding false ones. It seems ethical and practical rationality is related to diferent ends – maybe justice, or good life, etc. Now, if it is true that having true beliefs and avoiding false ones is someway important to practical rationality, one can then see the possible relations between these two kinds of rationality: maybe being epistemically rational is necessary for one to be practically rational, or being epistemically rational is just helpful for being practically rational, etc. One can go through these possibilities and try to find good examples ilustrating the relevant relations between these kinds of rationality.
      Q1) you can think that norms=rules, ok? however, the same properties apply: you don’t need to know a rule to act according to it, and you don’t need to be conscious of following a rule to follow it. we could ask what is the nature of these norms or rules. Are they ‘built in’ us? Are they generalizations from particular cases? Are they a priori knowledgeable truths? I don’t have any hint at answering these interesting questions right now.
      Q2) Now, I don’t think that following an epistemic norm is something that can be socially determined. If we philosophers cannot express these norms without some degree of disagreement, how can these (maybe yet unknown) norms be constructed socially? I take for granted that, in any place, in any situation and for any cognitive agent, it is not correct to commit a logical fallacy, for example. If you are affirming the consequent, a very common fallacy of reasoning, you are not following epistemic norms, which are norms to achieve epistemic excellence (having true beliefs, avoiding false ones).
      Q3) I’m working on it!
      Thank you so much for these very interesting points! Keep me posted on your doubts and ideas!

  • Luis Rosa 4:13 pm on June 21, 2011 Permalink | Reply
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    To watch the videos, click here. You also can download the mp3/mp4 files as podcasts, and hear it on your mobile player. Isn’t it cool to hear these philosophers talking while you’re on the bus or walking through the street?

     
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